What
is Correct - Nirayan
or Sayan?
Indian or Western?
There has been a lot of confusion to the fact whether
Sayan system is right or Nirayan. Though being a major difference, yet
it has not been well understood. Here, in this article, we try to
clarify that the planets in the sky are moving according to Nirayan
system, and hence only the nirayan system should be followed in
astrology. Sayan system is merely meant for knowing the earth's
position with respect to Sun and thus determining the seasons but it
is not meant for knowing which planet is passing through which sign.
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As per the western system sun enters into Aries on
22nd March every year whereas in Indian system Sun goes to Aries on
13/14th of April every year. What is correct? Both can not be correct
at one time & definitely this means a lot in astrology. A
difference of 23-24 days can not be ignored when we are talking of few
minutes or seconds accuracy in giving predictions.
The followers of Sayan system strongly recommend
the usage of 22nd March as entry of Sun into Aries. We at "Future
Point" have tried to go into the root of this problem by looking
at the stars physically in the sky and arrived at a conclusion that in
the sky, all planets move according to the nirayan system only. To
understand it fully let us divide the study into two parts.
1. What is the situation of various planets as
computed presently versus the stars.
2. What was the situation 2000 years ago & what will be the
situation after 2000 years.
Second condition amplifies the difference of Ayanamsa
to give a more clear view about the Sayan & Nirayan systems. Now
we will discuss both the points in detail.
Table -I
Position of Moon during 1-15 May '98 at 10 PM at Delhi
| Nirayan |
Sayan |
| 1st May |
Gemini |
26:46 |
Cancer |
20:36 |
| 2nd |
Cancer |
9:43 |
Leo |
3:33 |
| 3rd |
Cancer |
22:16 |
Leo |
16:06 |
| 4th |
Leo |
4:30 |
Leo |
28:20 |
| 5th |
Leo |
16:31 |
Virgo |
10:21 |
| 6th |
Leo |
28:23 |
Virgo |
22:13 |
| 7th |
Virgo |
10:11 |
Libra |
4:01 |
| 8th |
Virgo |
21:59 |
Libra |
15:49 |
| 9th |
Libra |
3:50 |
Libra |
27:40 |
| 10th |
Libra |
15:48 |
Scorpio |
9:38 |
| 11th |
Libra |
27:52 |
Scorpio |
21:42 |
| 12th |
Scorpio |
10:06 |
Sagittarius |
3:56 |
| 13th |
Scorpio |
22:29 |
Sagittarius |
16:19 |
| 14th |
Sagittarius |
5:02 |
Sagittarius |
28:52 |
| 15th |
Sagittarius |
17:46 |
Capricorn |
11:36 |
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Table -II
Transit of Moon During 1-15 May '98 at Delhi
| Sign Transited |
Nirayan |
Sayan |
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Date |
Time |
Date |
Time |
| Cancer |
2/5/98 |
3:53 |
30/4/98 |
9:26 |
| Leo |
4/5/98 |
13:05 |
2/5/98 |
15:19 |
| Virgo |
7/5/98 |
1:16 |
5/5/98 |
1:16 |
| Libra |
9/5/98 |
14:13 |
7/5/98 |
13:48 |
| Scorpio |
12/5/98 |
2:10 |
10/5/98 |
2:40 |
| Sagittarius |
14/5/98 |
12:24 |
12/5/98 |
14:18 |
| Capricorn |
16/5/98 |
20:42 |
15/5/98 |
0:08 |
1. Present Star Position
It is difficult to watch the stars while Sun is in the sky. During month of May
no planet shall be visible in the sky at night. So we are giving the position of
Moon every day when it is visible at night during the month of May 98.
As per Sayan & Nirayan system the longitudes of Moon
during first half of May '98 given in table I.
Moon's transit into different signs from May 1-15th 1998 are
given in table-II.
If we look into the figures of table I, we find that Moon
attains, after 2 days appox. the same degree in Nirayan system as in Sayan
system e.g. It is at Leo 160 on 3rd May as per Sayan
system and on 5th May as per nirayan system.
The fig. A show the position of Moon during the first half of
May 98, at 10 pm. in Delhi. If we look into the position of Moon & compare
with its degrees as per Sayan and Nirayan system, it is very obvious that
Moon’s actual movement is very close to the Nirayan system & it does not
tally with Sayan system at all. For example on 5th May 98 it is at Leo-160 as per nirayan system. In the sky also, (fig A) moon is in mid of Leo
sign, whereas Sayan system gives a value of Virgo-100. The
moon is visible in Virgo not before 7th May 98. This situation can be studied
daily between 1-15 May as per table I and sky map A to find the actual movement
of moon in the sky. Hence we can say that we should follow only the Nirayan
system for all astrological computations.
2. Past & Future Star Positions
To look into the past & future, we shall take help of sky maps as computed
by scientific programmes which are known to be accurate by todays scientists of
the world.
Let us look at the position of Sun as per Sayan & Nirayan
system at a gap of 1000 years from 15 May 0001 to 15th May 5001 at 12 Noon at
Delhi. The position of Sun are given in table III.
Fig. B shows clearly that Sun is in Pisces on 15th May in
year 5001 whereas as per the Sayan system it should be in Taurus. This is far
away from the truth.
Secondly we can clearly see the movement of Sun with respect
to stars. It is moving behind by appox. 140 every 1000
years. This is exactly what the ayanamsa is.
Fig B shows clearly that Sun enters into Taurus on 15 May
1998. It is not towards end of Taurus as suggested by Sayan system.
The above explanation clearly & undoubtedly prove that Nirayan
system as followed in vedic astrology is correct and is in accordance to the
star position in the sky.
Does it mean that western system which is quite accurate as per the modern
science is wrong ? The answer is No.
Table-III
Position of Sun on 15th May at 12 hrs. at Delhi during year 1-5001
| Year |
|
Niryana |
|
Sayana |
Ayanamsa |
| 1 |
Taurus |
27:03 |
Taurus |
23:00 |
-4:02:25 |
| 1001 |
Taurus |
13:25 |
Taurus |
23:20 |
9:54:54 |
| 2001 |
Taurus |
0:37 |
Taurus |
24:30 |
23:52:14 |
| 3001 |
Aries |
16:43 |
Taurus |
24:34 |
37:50:12 |
| 4001 |
Aries |
3:39 |
Taurus |
25:27 |
51:47:59 |
| 5001 |
Pisces |
19:26 |
Taurus |
25:11 |
65:45:10 |

Fig A : Sky Position 1st May '98 to
14th May '98 at 10 PM at Delhi

Fig B : Sun Position on 15th May '98 12 Hrs. at Delhi during year 0001 to 50001

Fig.
C. Milky Way Galaxy from the Side

Fig. D.
Position of the Sun in the Milky Way Galaxy
Then how both the systems can be
correct at the same time & still be different? We know that western system
is basically a solar system & not based on stars. Here zero degree refers to
a position with respect to the Sun coordinates or the Vernal equinoctial point
i.e. the ascending node of the ecliptic on the equator. It does not have to do
any thing with the Aries star whereas in the Nirayan system, 0 degree means a
position in the direction of Aries star. Actually zero degree of sayan system
which never refers to Aries star has mistakenly been taken as zero degree of
Aries. This small anomaly has led to the confusion between the Sayan & the
Nirayan system. We should not confuse overselves & say that Sun enters into
Aries on 22nd March every year. We should rather say that Sun attains a
longitude of zero degree on 22nd March as per Sayan system or the Solar
coordinate system.
With this clarification let us also clarify that astrological
predictions given as per the sayan system does not have sound astrological
basis. We can not & should not take the properties of various signs same for
Sayan and Nirayan systems.
Let us understand what is ayanamsa which makes all this
difference in the two systems. Ayanamsa is basically precession of the
equinoxes. It can be understood better when we look at our galaxy. We know that
our solar system is a part of galaxy called "Milky Way" which looks
like fig. C & our solar system is moving around the centre of the milky way
as shown in fig. D. Sun takes roughly 26,000 years appox. to complete one circle
around the galaxy. The stars remain fixed and do not move around. Because of the
motion of the sun, the position of stars changes by 50.3 arc seconds every year
and it takes roughly 20 minutes 24 seconds more time for earth to complete the
circle around Sun with respect to these stars. That is why the sidereal year is
365.256363 days compared to solar year of 365.2422 days only.
To sum up we Know that Indian astrology is based on stars and any planet
passing through the particular star gives the results of that star or changes
its behaviour acco-rding to the stars it passes through. Only Nirayan system
gives us computations of planets with respect to stars; Sayan system refers to
planet positions in solar coordinate system. Hence only Nirayan system should be
followed for predictions in astrology.
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